Copper – Bart's Charts

Copper … interesting

it’s all about the data folks … in this case we have a monthly continuous contract of Copper Futures. the PATTERN into the low back in 1990-2000 (yes it took 10 years to complete .. read that again – 10 years) is hard to understand w/out anymore data to the left of it’s beginning so it’s hard to figure out if the high in 2010 was a big 3 or big 5.

thus, I’m going to outline two scenarios ..one bearish one bullish.

BEARISH: replace the big bright orange question mark w/ a bigger 5. IF that is the case THEN the most recent high was completing a B wave and we have started a C wave down … C waves are freight trains of beauty and a wonder to behold .. leave nothing in their wake. stand by …

now, hold the phone, what if the big bright orange question mark is/was a 3? then, the BULLISH scenario is we just finished wave 3, are correcting wave 4 and copper is a BUY into new highs … it’s still working it’s way thru the corrective PATTERN that will appear so it’s hard to make a projection but we should NOT go below (1) as that will violate a rule …

so, for now, take note of the blue arrows .. the all time high was, yup, an AB=CD staring from May 1999. It smacked right into that …

kind of in no mans land from a count perspective due to data but expect the two red horizontal lines to act as support due to the polarity principle …

Happy Fathers Day …

also, note EEM .. smacked into a nice target zone in/around 58 and the second chart shows the daily sell signal on EEM.

minor EEM sell pattern on the daily …

last, note the synchronicization between copper and emerging markets … pretty nice correlation.

last, note the FXI (china) has NOT made new highs while Copper and EEM have .. below you can see that high/low inflection points are nicely timed by the Chinese ETF …

so, for now, expect copper weakness for the next couple weeks then we can figure out where we might be from a count. if anyone has really long term copper data please let me know.

Bart

Dr. Copper – UPDATE

Update 02/23/2021 – the “sell zone” failed but, if you do look at the chart it basically held copper at bay for approximately 7-8 weeks, then exploded higher, just like the stock market. the past couple days I’ve been posting a LOT of 5 counts and took a peak at copper and smacked right into another higher target … yes, we have some strong thrust into this zone it’s something to take notice of ….. why? If the 5 counts are actually ending then this current level is what should hold copper, it’s that simple. If copper explodes higher, which it most certainly can, then I am hard pressed to find a reason for the equities to go down.

note – WATCH THIS COPPER LEVEL!

a common relationship exists based on 1.618*the wave. in this chart just hit that target, exactly

Copper,/ below, smacked right into the “SELL ZONE” … why is Copper being blogged about? Isn’t that a “who cares” type of metal? Ummmm, no. the inflection that occurs in copper has occurred in the stock market, as shown, on every major pivot since 2009, at a minimum. /

so, this “zone” is very important …. watch copper in the coming days/weeks to get a “feel” for the overall health of the market.

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if you’ve been following my blog you know I’ll say “I love Elliott Wave, when it works…!” for Copper it certainly has. one of my first blog posts was about absolutely nailing the low at 4 by using, you guessed it, Elliott Wave.

is it going to work again … I really have no idea. that being said, if we follow the standard Elliott corrective construction, certainly looks reasonable that Dr. Copper is finishing a trend defining “b wave” and, just perhaps, a monstrous “c wave” cometh ….

“I think this is a song of hope …” Robert Plant Live Stairway to Heaven

The S&P 500 has been climbing a stairway to Heaven ..

folks coming into 2015 we had some pretty strong patterns appearing. some worked and some didn’t – isn’t that what we expect? that being said, it was prudent to be cautious due to their presence.

here’s what I posted around a year ago:

“Let’s don’t jump up and down and scream the BEAR MARKET is here till this chariot of the bulls breaks a swing low.”

so, while we’ve sold off for the past couple days let’s not go crazy. we have broken ONE swing low and that’s it, and it’s ONLY a weekly. WE HAVE NOT BROKEN A MONTHLY SWING LOW.

so, keep it ALL context of the big picture. We break a swing low on a MONTHLY and then a second then we have “issues.”

but for now, EVERYONE knows this puppy was on steroids and need some shaking out so let’s look for a pattern to BUY on a weekly (hint hint – it needs to breathe a bit) and if a bear I would still be very cautious.

what do we know and see … ?

we know a weekly swing low is about to be taken out and we’ll know that ONLY WITH THE CLOSE TOMORROW … we also know this has NEVER happened since March 2009 bull market began.

so, here’s the logic:

if weekly close below a swing low … get defensive.
if not, then keep in mind, we have pressure on the downside and it probably needs to breathe down so just chill …

enjoy the post below .. you’ll see some of the patterns were early, some were spot on. that’s not the point .. the entire post below is around the market action around a SWING LOW or SWING HI and to respect them — very very strongly.

let me know if you have any questions.

chart below is the ES .. note the red horizontal swing lows. those have never been broken on close. it might happen tomorrow …

Bart

As we have discussed multiple times in this venue, the move since 2009 has been one heck of a ride. This chariot of stock market emotion is, literally, off the charts. It is at an extreme that has surpassed 1929, 2000 and 2007. For the past 6 months it has defied the powerful cycles and patterns we follow. However, we are at another “potential” inflection point and based on this weeks price action the chariot appears to be running out of gas. So, objectively, the cycles and patterns we follow appear to be working. Let’s don’t jump up and down and scream the BEAR MARKET is here till this chariot of the bulls breaks a swing low.

Below you’ll see a quick demonstration of the Dow Jones Industrial Average from 2002-2009. No patterns shown but just an example of the power of the swing low. Take note, when we lose one swing low there is usually some selling and then it bounces back and, here’s the key point, it fails to make a new high. Price might congest in this area (going either direction – up or down) and then it starts down. One thing to watch is “usually” the third swing low. When that gives away, selling is vicious. So, as much as we see MAJOR patterns completing let’s not get to confident. THE MAJOR US INDICES HAVE NOT BROKEN ONE SWING LOW IN 5 YEARS. Over the coming weeks, pay attention to these swing lows and swing highs (note the VIX chart – not one swing high has been taken out since 2007!)

Also, note the Dollar Index swing low track record and the very thin neckline that is coming into play a little lower. We’ve reached some daily extremes in metals (Gold, Silver) and the Euro and Pound. Sentiment means nothing when a multi year extreme is taken out and one that has been tested roughly 10 times since 2012. Folks, a lot of stops are hiding beneath 78-79 on the dollar index. Certainly hope support holds here …

so, keep an eye on the swing lows and highs over the coming days and weeks … note price action after a first or second swing low is taken out and, seriously consider safety if/when a 3rd long term swing low is taken out to the up or down side ….

Inflection point for bearish or bullish EEM / FXI now

August 30, 2014: the CLIFF NOTES is we are at a crucial point for the EEM, FXI and Copper. Patterns suggest a bearish stance is prudent.

The bottom line is the neckline shown in FXI and EEM did not break and a very strong rally has taken place. That being said, BASED ON THE VERY BEARISH COUNT OF COPPER ON A LONG TERM BASIS, believe the EEM, FXI and Copper should start back down again. The charts will show the PATTERNS. Right now, I remain BEARISH on the FXI and the EEM because of the LONG TERM TOP in COPPER. Note, divergence is present in the recent price action. So, even thought they (FXI, EEM) have been linked very strongly to Copper, this linkage could be broken and they are now decoupled. With recent price action this is a distinct possibility. Let’s see if the patterns shown on EEM and FXI fail before we come to this conclusion.

note the CLOSE correlation of Copper and EEM for a "pretty long" time — note the CLOSE correlation of Copper and EEM for a “pretty long” time

FXI sell pattern ... — EEM sell pattern …

Here is the bottom line of these markets (EEM/FXI, COPPER) – If the point labeled 5 below was NOT the high (but a little higher on copper around 5 is the actual target) then these patterns will fail and we’ll see another move higher and I will update new targets. RIGHT NOW – behave/manage risk like the 5 on the chart below is 5 – and folks it’s a long term 5 – then the EEM, FXI and Copper securities should be starting down in/around here. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? Enjoy the Labor Day weekend w/ family and friends.

please see this post to see why the high in copper is so important: http://bartscharts.com/2013/12/20/the-copper-script/

note a POTENTIAL for an ENORMOUS top in place for Copper 1,2,3,4,5

one last, note below the relative strength RATIO of EEM / SPY. Since 2010, on a relative basis the EEM has been getting smoked by the S&P500 as a whole. Also, note that the .618 retrace supported, for a while, but the broke and is now the REASON for the resistance. A little lower (blue shaded rectangle) is a NICE target to potential watch for a flow of funds into the EEM. Would hold off for now BUT do watch closely as we did break above the median trend line (like in the end of 2012 – which was defeated – blue arrow) and we should start down now w/ the SELL patterns present.

Rock on, ok?

Bart

March 13, 2014:

CLIFF NOTES: the move in copper should not be surprising // we are correcting a multi-decade 5 waves up complete. This has shown to put pressure on emerging markets and china. All according to the script.

if you would like to search for “copper” on this blog you will see that we have had a bearish stance for a good couple of years. A strong case can be made that Copper finished a multi-year 5 waves UP and is now undergoing a potentially very violent correction. if you also click on this link you will see the correlation between FXI (chinese ETF) and EEM (emerging markets ETF) and Copper : http://bartscharts.com/2014/02/01/copper-and-the-emerging-markets-eem-etf/ also here are the highs and lows in Copper: http://bartscharts.com/2013/12/20/the-copper-script/

The most recent breakdown in copper does not play well for FXI or EEM.

Copper Script Part II

CLIFF NOTES: the probability is high that we break the key support line in/around 3.0 that has been holding copper up since 2010.

CLIFF NOTES 2: here is the link to the “Copper Script Part I” to watch how a BUY was recommended in the midst of the crash in 2009: http://bartscharts.com/2013/12/20/the-copper-script/

Note, a potential gameplan is shown by the light blue lines …

Swing Low, Sweet Chariot ….

Update on Copper, Emerging Markets and China

CLIFF NOTES: the move in copper should not be suprising // we are correcting a multi-decade 5 waves up complete. This has shown to put pressure on emerging markets and china. All according to the script.

The most recent breakdown in copper does not play well for FXI or EEM.

Copper and the Emerging Markets (EEM ETF)

Copper is important … it’s still a major player w/ regard to the global economy and is something that should be watched. We also think Copper made a very important wave 5 top … here’s the chart as the top was getting made (I want to provide “real time “charts” so there is no “could of, would of, should of”). It certainly counts a 5 wave move UP being complete.

WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT … well, if we do, in fact, have this count right then the corrective move in COPPER HAS A LOT MORE TO GO. Here’s the updated chart and note the “neckline” that most everyone can see. Bottom line is this neckline is a big deal and, particularly to the EEM ETF. (Emerging Markets)

here is the EEM ETF (daily) and NOTE HOW IMPORTANT THE 37-38 LEVEL IS FOR THIS ETF. It’s completed a pattern and we had some good buying occurring at the key level but IT NEEDS TO HOLD.

now, why the diatribe about Copper above? Well, this next chart is Copper overlaid on top of EEM. Note the synchronicity … pretty well lined up.

PUNCH LINE:

IF COPPER has 5 wave top THEN it has more correcting and downside. Potentially substantial …
IF COPPER and EEM synchronicity to remain THEN EEM pattern that is noted on the DAILY EEM chart will, ultimately, fail.
IF COPPER and EEM break necklines THEN substantial selling coming in the future for not only COPPER but also the Emerging Markets.
THERFORE: don’t be LONG EEM.

Make it a great weekend …. B

the Copper Script …

if you have been following my blogs of late, you’ll find that I’ve been throwing some bearish patterns out there. simply, there are bearish patterns. period dot … they work, they fail and we manage RISK. just to show you that I am agnostic to the BULL and/or BEAR case here’s the falling knife of copper and the BUY recommendation that was put out … the FORM/PROPORTION/GEOMETRY was PERFECT. enjoy ….I still think Copper is a big deal.

Copper and China

the count (long term) for copper appears to have completed a very well defined 5 wave move … if this is correct, then perhaps we have a little larger rally to kiss the neckline and then down into much lower prices. why is this important to China? well, from a chart view they are aligned extremely nicely. so, IF Copper is going to go down THEN so should FXI if the correlation holds …

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